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okay here is our interview with peter

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jenny

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you know obviously we're going to dig

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into all the

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a lot of the details of the book and

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mary

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is it pin show meijer yes it's french

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pintxo

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pincho meyer

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but i thought maybe a good place to

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start and then it'll lead us into that

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is to start by you just telling us in

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your view based on all your research

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who killed

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john f kennedy and why

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i would say unquestionably after

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studying this for

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more than 20 years

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that

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john f kennedy was assassinated

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by the national security state of the

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united states of america

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and that would include the cia the

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those people

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and am i right it's been a while since

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i've seen um oliver stone's movie but

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isn't that kind of oliver stone's

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conclusion also

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yes to a very large degree it is yep and

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i think

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you know in my opinion uh oliver stone

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should be commended i think he is a

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courageous artist

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and he has

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unswervingly given the public

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the closest picture to what really

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happened in his movie jfk even though

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people try and come along and lambast

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him day in and day out year in year out

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uh

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believe me i

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i grew up with the cia my father was in

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the cia he was part of the cover-up

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of the cia's involvement in the kennedy

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assassination

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i speak from a certain vantage point

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that many people do not have

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so all i can do is just give you my

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truth

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and

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after just an enormous amount of study

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over a number of period of years i think

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the the evidence is overwhelming

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talk just briefly about your father

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and also i'd like to know what was his

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opinion if he ever shared it with you

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anyone who worked for the cia back in

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the 1950s or 60s

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isn't going to tell you the truth uh

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they're going to tell you what they want

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you to believe even your own father even

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my own father yeah

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and uh you know

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um

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courage

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during world war ii

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uh you know he was a aircraft carrier

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pilot

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on the new grommet avenger torpedo

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bomber uh

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for lack of a better way to put it

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looked up death sass on many occasions

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and came back to tell about it

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won the navy cross second only to the

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congressional medal of honor

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uh and you know came back he hero

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frankly uh and i think a lot of men in

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his generation and his social class

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um most a lot of which they didn't have

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to work because they were

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from very well well-to-do families

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but they wanted to

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you know make a difference in the world

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they wanted to serve their country

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so my dad was

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at the uh

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inception of the cia when it was

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launched in 1947 he didn't start there

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until 1948

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um but that was his career uh and

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he made the most of it and would you say

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he was high up in the cia very high up

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as when you were a boy did you know he

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was in the cia

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yes uh

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we knew he was in the cia that didn't

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mean he could tell us very much right so

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there's secret agents in the cia that

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you don't know but your father was i was

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a higher up in the in you know it was

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known he's working in the cia right

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but you have to remember in

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in the 1950s in the early 60s i i mean

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you know we thought our father

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i mean being a cia brat we thought our

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father was just like james bond

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and of course that's what they wanted

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you to believe

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uh he wasn't um but he he loved ian

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fleming and his books he read them all

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we we would go to the james bond movies

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as a family and you know have a grand

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old time well i i wish i could show you

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around my house right now but you would

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see about uh

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much to my wife's chagrin about 10

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original james bond posters hanging in

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my house

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my father raised me a big james bond fan

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though he wasn't in the cia so um do you

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that your father

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involved in any way or or knowledgeable

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in any way in

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advance i would doubt that very

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seriously an operation like the

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assassination of jfk was a very what's

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compartmentalized operation very few

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knew about it

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was totally on a need to know basis

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was involved in certain operations but

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of course he was never really able to

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talk about them

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um sometimes when he had too much to

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drink he would let the cat out of the

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bag a little bit uh but you could

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never really corner him uh very much on

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what he might have mentioned

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well yeah just to tie a bow on that

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what's the most that he ever said to you

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about jfk's assassination

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well in terms of the real truth about it

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he said very little i mean he he wanted

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us to believe that you know it was lee

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harvey oswald and he was the lone

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assassin

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uh and you know all that gibberish which

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um but you know when jim garrison

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in the late 1960s

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was bringing the case back into the

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legal system and you know he was going

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after this guy clay shaw

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uh you know my father was running

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you know a desk inside the cia where

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they were trying to thwart jim

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garrison's investigation

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uh at every edit

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every corner and of course there had

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been documents released

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you know since the early 1990s that my

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father signed that i had in my position

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my possession that substantiate that

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huge

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um and you know without

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just giving you a teaser

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the woman that i write about in my book

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mary pinchell meyer of course

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was a very dear friend of my families

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she and my mother went to college

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she and her former husband cordmeyer

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worked in the cia he was very close with

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and you know in my book i bring to light

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how my father was part of the conspiracy

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to murder this woman because of what she

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was about to do

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before we dig into mary just a quick tie

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off on the other thing so you said nsa

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bottom line why

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did they want kennedy dead

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they wanted kennedy dead because he

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wasn't willing to toe the line he had

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his own idea

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of where this country should go

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and particularly that idea had to do

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starting in

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1963 uh after the cuban missile crisis

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jfk realized uh that the cold war

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mentality

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was a dead end

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and he was much more concerned he became

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with efforts at peace at world peace

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and so

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to take the reins into his own hands

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begin to steer the country

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away from cold war mentality toward a

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new vision

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our country and the rest of the world

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into the possibilities of peace and

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that's essentially was was what his

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speech his very famous speech

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at the american university comment

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commencement address on june 10th 1963

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and and just what was the essence of

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that speech well the essence of it was

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that

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he really challenged

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people to

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come to terms with what

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their uh prejudices were against russia

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and other you know nation states that

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were anti-us